
1997 Partnerships
for Networked Consumer Health Information Conference
Transcripts of Plenary Sessions and
Breakout Sessions
Customizing
Information 5: "Long-Term Care and Disability"
Wednesday, April 16
2:00-3:30 PM
Moderator: Arlette Lefebvre,
M.D., Founder and Past President, Ability Online Network,
Toronto, Canada
T. Bradley Tanner, M.D., President,
Clinical Tools, Inc., Pittsburgh, PA
Anthony Margherita, M.D., Assistant
Professor, Neurology and Orthopedic Surgery, University
of Washington, School of Medicine, St. Louis, MO;
Director, The Rehabilitation Learning Center
Linda Roman, CEO, Help Innovations;
Lawrence, KS
Tom Koch, Research Associate in
Bioethics, Hospital for Sick Children, Toronto, Canada
Lefebvre: I am delighted to be here.
This panel's general focus is on the use of new
resources to deliver data, support, and supervision and
to assist those living with limited physical and mental
disabilities and their family members. The speakers have
diverse client bases: mental health, spinal cord injury,
elder care, child development, and chronic illness. All
are developing online and web site resources to assist
persons with physical or emotional disabilities.
I have worked in Toronto for 22 years in child care,
clinical research, and health promotion. I work with
children, trying to boost their self-esteem. About 8
years ago, I discovered I could connect kids to great
role models. Computer technology can open doors for
children with disabilities. One in five people in the
United States has a disability. But I worry about
accessibility for disabled persons. People with cerebral
palsy, blindness, and other disabilities have trouble
getting a hold on the data. The patient and the role of
the health provider have changed. No longer is the
patient an invalid.
With the "traditional patient" we used to
see a "top down" approach, with doctors as the
only authority and patients as passive, dependent
individuals. Traditional professionals held the view that
doctors know best; a physician learns from other
professions; publishes in peer-reviewed journals; and is
expert at driving texts. At Ability Online, kids with
disabilities or chronic illness are linked to other kids
and adults who care. Via electronic mail, Ability Online
connects children from hospital, home, or school with old
friends and new. They are joined with classmates and
family back home; people with the same disability, or no
disability at all; as well as role models and mentors who
encourage and support them. Thanks to some very dedicated
people, Ability Online is absolutely free to anyone who
has a computer, a modem, and a phone line. Founded in
1992 by a child psychiatrist and a computer specialist,
Ability Online is monitored by volunteers and
professionals from a variety of backgrounds. Presently
there are three hospitals participating in the United
States. The health care provider need not be the expert,
and children can actually aid in the care of others.
Sometimes individuals with disabilities can be the best
support for parents who have children with disabilities.
People with similar disabilities can give emotional
support to others. Family relations can be improved with
the use of a modem. If we wait for questions to come from
health consumers we can give a better reply. In
conclusion:
- self-helpers prefer two-way communication,
- self-helpers and professionals, together, can
best meet the needs of patients,
- with integrated access the latest and best
medical information is available.
Tanner: [Demonstration of the CD-ROM developed
by Dr. Tanner]
With this CD-ROM, I built a base in patient education
in schizophrenia and senior care. I have a very
biological focus, but if all you do is push pills it
doesn't work. I am trying to develop tools for
caregivers, often a spouse -- to assist them in the
situation where they are forced to manage care. A problem
is that the older the user, the more difficult it is to
convince him or her to use the CD-ROM and technology for
senior care options. People over 65 years old have more
difficulty in utilizing the software. People must be
assisted in understanding how to use the technology. The
key is to make things very clear. Another discovery is
that people were unimpressed with menus of numerous
options. I have heard them say that they do not want to
be bothered with many menus of choices as seen on the
Internet. I have tried to respond and reconfigure the
software based on the feedback of initial users.
Sometimes an interface is going to have to be used, but I
don't have much confidence in the Internet. There are
many pitfalls associated with this system. We have
learned a considerable amount to assist us in avoiding
these pitfalls:
- Employ young people who are enthusiastic and have
them learn the skills. Energy, enthusiasm, and
interest in health make a big difference.
- Put some energy in keeping up with the new
technology. Find out what's out there and what's
new. Beware not to take on everything new at
once.
- The team environment is vital to success. Without
a team, it cannot be sustained.
- Look at the skills required; it is worth
investing in the technology instead of shopping
everything out. You can learn a lot yourself.
I have had people ask me if I thought the seniors
would be using this technology. In my experience I can
say that half of our users are spouses and half are other
family members. Most primary caregivers are spouses or
family members rather than the seniors themselves.
Outpatient care is one thing we're looking at, but we
found that after the crisis most people do not seem to
use the software.
Margherita: A multimedia health information
system will facilitate the dawn of an information
revolution in medicine. Such a system can facilitate the
constantly advancing study of medicine, as present
curricula for medical students cannot meet their
information needs. This information system may support a
move toward "consumerization" of health care,
as well as reduce delivery costs.
In consumer health informatics, the
"datasphere" continues to grow beyond the
controls of organized medicine. Continued growth of
online "self-help" communities will lead to
unprecedented access to information.
I will now discuss The Rehabilitation Learning Center
(RLC), located on the web at http://weber.u.washington.edu/~rlc/. The RLC is a multimedia learning environment
designed to instruct individuals with spinal cord
injuries about their conditions and empower them to
become active participants in their rehabilitation. At
the Center, we conducted a multimedia technology
demonstration. Volunteers engaged in development of the
project, which employed a multi-tiered implementation
strategy. We also integrated client tracking and database
functions.
We found that we had many questions and challenges to
consider, such as, is multimedia the next wave? What are
our needs? Are they more speed, more power, more disk
space, more bandwidth?
Also to be considered, what will be the resulting
consequences of our efforts? Will we get more delays,
more frustration, more cost, and more unfulfilled
promises?
The main problems with a multimedia consumer health
information system are: bandwidth, the size of the pipe
(local/networked), file size, (RLC demo video takes up
18MB of disk space for 15 seconds), and movies won't fit
on CD-ROM (Do we use DVD, which is a larger storage
system?). Other problems and issues are access (gridlock
on the info superhighway), multiple possible deployment
strategies, functional/computer illiteracy, intrinsic
limitations of computer-based training, and prohibitive
development costs.
There are issues involving delivery and monitoring the
client. How to deliver the information? How do we
track/test the users progress/knowledge? How can we
address customization? How is ethnic/cultural diversity
handled?
We must identify the right deployment strategies. Do
we use informational kiosks, web sites, shrinkwrap
self-help (shovelware)? Do we work at the bedside?
Budget is a major consideration. Also, you must
include all the players when developing the system. Be
aware that content expertise is important, but that it is
not enough to ensure a good outcome. Also to keep in mind
during the development stage is that design, media
selection, and delivery technology will ultimately drive
your timelines
Going back to the topic of budget, in developing our
RLC, we had a target budget of $250k and received $160k
in grants and gifts. The actual real cost totaled nearly
$400k.
The way we approached the analysis was by interviewing
experts on subject matter, researching available
materials, pulling from focus group meetings, and by
returning for final instruction on the design.
In our analysis we conducted interviews with experts
on subject matter and researched available materials. We
pulled from focus group meetings and received final
instruction on the design.
Our focus when developing a design was to stay simple
and avoid clutter, using minimal text on screen. We had
high-contrast colors and made sure the screen was
viewable in varied lighting. We created a soft look, had
minimal mousing, and understandable icons. We set up a
clear rollover/click state, and we developed the design
to encourage exploration.
Our development priorities were to fine tune it, with
an emphasis on getting all components to work together --
and also on confirming navigational links.
We prepared for implementation by planning for single
station/single users (SME/client expert). We planned for
a networked environment and established database links
and a test.
Testing entailed analysis of user experience,
evaluation of system effectiveness, and methods to
determine strengths and weaknesses. To further identify
customization needs, we continued to expand user base and
to learn from how these people utilized the system.
In conclusion, I can say of our experience,
"baptized by the fire, I wade into the river that
runs through the promised land. I hope it doesn't take
the rest of my life until I find what it is that I'm
looking for."
-Billy Joel River of Dreams
Thank you.
Roman: I am not a technologist. I perceive some
needs in my community. I know that our elderly would
prefer to stay at home. I run a nursing home. There
really is not enough funding to go around to do what we
need to do for our elderly. Our elderly population is
growing.
Help Innovations, which was founded in 1993, delivers
health care to patients in their homes over its
ResourceLink system, which provides two-way interactive
television via cable, ISDN, or telephone lines.
Typically, the ResourceLink Tele-Home Health care service
is located in a health care facility. The base station
caseload is managed by a registered nurse. During a
visit, the nurse assesses the patient's vital signs,
medical status, supervises the medication routine, and
provides patient education. I believe that the United
States can save $449.4 million by reducing by 5 percent
the numbers of elderly who enter nursing homes (74,900 x
$6,000). We can save $1.84 billion in Medicare, Medicaid,
and insurance savings by substituting this interactive
health information system for 10 percent of chronically
ill patients who are receiving skilled home health nurse
visits.
We provide home health care from interactions between
patients in their homes. I have a 6-minute video to show
you how Health Innovation ResourceLinks works. Two-way
community health care links, vital statistics, and
medication can be administered cost effectively. Patients
can see their doctor within their own home and can gain
security. Doctor visits, hospital fees, and nursing home
costs can be reduced. ResourceLinks can be an alternative
for people requiring medical counseling, doing away with
the high costs of traveling to a physician every time
there is a basic problem.
There are base stations and workstations located in
the hospitals, and care management software is available.
For the patient, using this system is like watching TV.
And people can read digital equipment easily. From a
single resource station a nurse can visit three times the
number of patients who require daily contact with a
health practitioner. There is a rise in medical care, a
decrease in traveling costs, and patients can administer
their own medication. It prevents hospitalizations
because of the daily contact with medical personnel who
can more readily detect problems with patients who wish
to stay home. Patients feel in less danger and that they
are not alone. Another advantage is that other family
members need not reorganize their schedules to provide
care for elderly patients.
Every patient has preprogrammed interactions. For most
individuals on the system, by the second visit, they
actually get excited about the visit and they beautify
themselves prior -- a sign of better self-esteem. It
appears that when people are in control of their care
they heal faster.
Koch: I am sight impaired, and I am Canadian. I
work in bioethics. I have a health and fitness discussion
forum on CompuServe about health care and the elderly. I
also wrote a book on news and information and analyses of
data. I write material for children as well.
Marshall McLuhan insisted that the medium is the
message, but I have an opposing viewpoint. What drives
expansion is content and the ability to relay the message
with enormous specificity and directness to groups and
digital library resources. Popular acceptance of these
technologies is driven, not by the medium's attraction,
but by the quality and content of data. This evolution
speaks to the historical struggle for greater public
access to unbiased and unmediated data. We need to clear
up some misconceptions. It is about a series of
challenges that we all face. It is not about you unless
it is about your business. I don't want the doctor to
give me a choice of beta blockers when I go into surgery.
We shouldn't assume the procedures for those who are
impaired in some manner.
If you think the medium is the message, try having
cybersex for a year. When TV was introduced, people used
to stare at the test pattern on the screen because they
were so excited about the new technology -- then there
was a drop off. Virtual reality? Virtual or not,
sometimes the visits from others cannot be substituted by
virtual interactions. Needs vary according to the
patient. One thing we know is that the patient has almost
always had an informal network. Fifty years ago, doctors
knew how to use the resources within the community. There
are still barriers, including lack of knowledge. In our
work with our clients, it is important to ask about our
patients' limits. Let us not place ourselves too high and
call ourselves the information provider. The physician on
TV is better than no physician at all, but cannot replace
the individual who actually visits occasionally.
I will address isolation. For the fragile and their
caregivers, isolation in itself is a health risk. By
using technology we can aid, but technology cannot
replace humans.
Audience: Shouldn't bringing medical technology
into the home improve health care?
Lefebvre: Many people cannot afford the
Internet, so we have made our system accessible, from the
Commodore 64 on up.
Koch: Many people cannot even afford the proper
wheelchair, let alone the Internet.
Audience: Marketing these home health care
services involves getting the ideas into the home. There
are a lot of telemedical care providers, but they are
marketing through HMOs.
Roman: Actually, we are trying to get the
technology into the home and bypass the HMO, as the
latter is more expensive.
Koch: The telephone and TV have become
necessary and are state supported. That is one of the few
things that Newt Gingrich and I agree on. These will be
absolute necessities for all citizens and will be paid
for by the state since the development of medical
technology is growing at such a rapid pace.
Margherita: People don't want to only be
recipients. They also want to learn how to become
self-sufficient, and when it comes to the marketplace, we
are looking at how to reduce cost.
Audience: Isn't it rather late to wait for the
emergency to occur? Shouldn't it also be about
prevention?
Audience: Forty percent of the 10,000 people
who call us in California are not in the acute care
stage. Actually, people have stopped going to health care
professionals after 4 to 6 years of dealing with a
condition. Most of our referrals come from medical
practitioners who do not know how to educate the
long-term, chronic patients.
Koch: It is true that many people don't have
the resources to get the support needed to make changes
in their home care. If the medical profession stays along
the fee-for-service route, we won't be able to give
solutions.
Audience: Are we saying that we must respond to
demand, so some patients will be out of luck? My concern
is that we are not responding to the needs of the
patient, and technology is replacing human intervention.
Lefebvre: Well, we are trying to expand health
care facilities for the patients.
Roman: I think there is a presupposition of
what is best for the patient. I know what is best for me,
and you know what is best for you.
Audience: I just think that people should not
be pushed to accept in-home technology instead of
person-to-person care.
Margherita: There was resistance from those in
the health profession because, for example, the therapist
stated that there are a myriad of ways to conduct certain
medical procedures. We are trying to teach and explain
the proper way to perform certain home care skills that
are not based on one single model, whether it is
originated from the patient's own ideas or from the
caregivers.

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